History Group Talk November 2011


 

A Meeting of Widecombe History Group was held at The Church House, Widecombe on Wednesday 2nd November 2011 at 7.30 P.M.

Apologies:  Roger Whale, Dot Jones, Patrick Garvey, Alan & Mary Goodall, Dougie & Lynne Pidgeon, Carl Heywood, Mavis & Rick Clipson, and Peter & Miho Rennells.

Mrs Sue Boustead was in the chair and 47 members attended. Sue welcomed some new members and some visitors to the meeting.

The October minutes were read and signed as correct after two amendments.

(Viz:- 'History as it Happens’ for Meltor read Bell Tor Head and 'Meltor Cartwheel Rolling’  for Westward read Westwood.)

Arising:  Widecombe Fair 11th September 2012:  Peter & Aileen Carrett reported that contact should be maintained with 'Lifton Farm Shop' and 'Finches Foundry' at Sticklepath, regarding their UTC Models with a view to exhibiting them at Widecombe Fair next year. They will determine a theme for 2012 soon, and they will be relying on members support and help with whatever they plan.

North Hall:  In the absence of Peter Rennells there was little to report on North Hall. However, an email has been received from Margaret Rogers and Michael Lamb, suggesting that a ‘Wassail Ceremony’ could be held at their orchard on the North Hall site and the date suggested was 20th January 2012 at 2.00 p.m. so that the children of Widecombe School could participate. It was agreed that Peter should be asked to contact Margaret & Michael with suggestions and to see if Kate Edwards, the Headteacher, wished to be involved.

Archives:  Once again Richard Wells had items to archive. These included a copy of the Induction Service of our recently appointed Vicar of Widecombe, Rev. Geoffrey Fenton. Storage space is getting a premium!

The Dartmoor Magazine:  Peter Mason of Lustleigh, who came to our October meeting seeking help with photographs to illustrate  articles he is intending to write for the Magazine, has kept in contact with John Walling who has offered to help him. Peter also expressed a wish to borrow some of our group’s photographs.

Heritage and Educational Centre for Widecombe:  Anthony Beard  and Terry French have drawn up a plan of the Village Carpark including the area for the proposed site of the centre, and sent it to Widecombe Parish Council (WPC). WPC have in turn written to Teignbridge District Council (TDC) enclosing a copy of the plan of the site. Anthony will attend the WPC Meeting to be held on Thursday 3rd November to see what response WPC has received to their suggestion, that a small area of the car park should be returned to the ownership of WPC. If this could be achieved any building placed on that land would become the property of WPC and hence the Parish. This is our aim.  Peter Carrett informed the meeting of a new building being constructed at Mole Valley Farmers, Heathfield, by a firm called Wernick, from Nanpean, in Wales, which he considered would be of an acceptable form, and ideal for our centre if this comes about. Steel framed, built of timber, fully insulated, delivered and erected in module form, with steel shutters over the windows. Subject to WPC getting a satisfactory result in their attempt to regain the land, a building of this type needs exploration. Anthony reported that he has had an informal 'chat' with DNPA, who still seem supportive of our aims.

Application for Charitable Status:  Notice was given at our October 5th Meeting that on 2nd November 2011 members would be asked to consider an amended Constitution for Widecombe History Group. This is needed to comply with the wishes of The Charity Commissioners as we apply for Charity Status. They issued a standard Constitution, to which we could make small amendments. The current Trustees have considered it, and the amendments will be accepted by the Charity Commissioners if approved by the special meeting convened for that purpose, on Wednesday 2nd November 2011.  Roger Claxton gave the meeting a presentation on the newly suggested Constitution, the contents of which has been agreed to, by The Charity Commissioners. After a few questions to clarify the position, a proposition, proposed by Roger Claxton and seconded by John Walling, that the New Constitution should be approved was approved unanimously.  47 for, none against, and no abstentions.  The application was duly signed by the three current Trustees. Roger Claxton, John Walling & Anthony Beard, and Roger will forward it to The Charity Commissioners forthwith.

(P.S. One of our aims is to encourage the youth of the parish to take an interest in our heritage. We are assured that if this Constitution is accepted by The Charity Commissioners it will also be acceptable to H. M. Customs & Excise for ‘gift aid’ status.)

Digitising: This is still going well. The teams are meeting regularly and the work progressing.

A question arose about an email received from a Professor Howard Williams, of the University of Chester, concerning the memorials in Widecombe Churchyard. Secretary was requested to write to him and ask him to explain why he is doing this survey work, and is he intending to publish his findings and if so where and when. The records we have to date were completed in c1960, under the auspices of the now defunct  Widecombe Women's Institute, led by the late Iris Woods, assisted by one of our members Ruth Parnell and others. The record in question is now being digitised. There was a feeling that we should try and update this information with particular reference to the 'New Churchyard' and others that have been buried in the Old Churchyard since that time. Three members expressed a wish to do this, Mary Pascoe, Wendy Beard and  John Kimber. Rev Geoffrey Fenton expressed his support for  this project, and agreed to look into what records or plans of the churchyard are already held by the P. C. C.

History as it Happens: Monday 17th October as part of the 2011 Two Moors Festival, a Concert was held in Widecombe Church when Sophie, the Countess of Wessex, (Patron) attended.  A posy was presented to her by Georgina Nendick.  The Countess signed a prepared certificate recording her visit and several photographs were taken, copies of which we hope will be exhibited in our display cabinets soon.  The UTC. model has been returned to the Church after its’ recent repairs.  Thanks were expressed to Mike Wright for all his expertise.  The Dartmoor Challenge 2011, saw about 100 people walk from Widecombe over Hameldown and back to Widecombe via Hound Tor, Hemsworthy Gate, Top Tor and Bonehill Rocks.  Two local ladies completed the course, Wendy Cruze and Alison Whale.  A letter was received from Wendy Cruze thanking members of the History Group who sponsored her, and as a result she will be sending £260 to Marie Curie Cancer Care.  She completed the 13-miles course in  five hours, congratulations Wendy!  Widecombe Primary School recently entered a competition to produce a village map, run by The Campaign for the Protection of Rural England C.P.R.E, Their drawings are now on display in Widecombe Church. The school's entry gained Highly Recommended as runners up in the competition  One pupil Helen Pascoe was runner-up in the individual competition. The judges commented on the vibrant colours used in the paintings.

Widecombe Chronicle No.1:  Maggie Faulkner has taken on the task of producing our twice-yearly newsletter from now on entitled ‘Widecombe Chronicles’.  Volume 1, November 2011 to May 2012, was brought to the meeting and a very colourful item it is!.

Diary Dates:  Thursday 3rd November, Widecombe Parish Council meet at The Church House, Widecombe, 7.30 p.m. Thursday 3rd November, Talk at Shilstone, Modbury. Parterres to Cowpats. 7.00 p.m. Wednesday 23rd November, The Dartmoor Society’s lecture at Bovey Tracey 01822 617004. Thursday 1st December, at Shilstone, Modbury, a talk on West Dartmoor Farms 01548 830832. Tuesday 6th December, Princetown L.H.G. A.G.M. at The Prince of Wales Pub. Wednesday7th December, Coffee morning at Leusdon Memorial Hall, 10.00 to 12 noon. Wednesday 7th December, our monthly meeting when Dr. Todd Gray will give an illustrated talk on Christmas in Devon.

E-mails and Correspondence: Notification from Widecombe Parochial Church Council of an Open Meeting being held on Tuesday 15th November at 7.30 p.m. in the Church House, Widecombe, to discuss plans for celebrating the Diamond Jubilee of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, scheduled for June 2012. Saturday 19th November at The Moorland Hotel, Wotter, the DTRG are holding a social evening during which there will be a film show of excavations at Upper Merrivale Tin Mill in 1991 and 1996, never before seen, and the launch of a newly researched book ‘The Great Courts of Devon Tinners 1510 and 1710’ written by Tom Greaves and Phil Newman. 01752 250767. Members are encouraged to bring a friend. Letter of thanks from Clare Born, Widecombe P.C.C.  for a donation received from the Group. Letter of thanks from Val and Richard Casey for our assistance with the recent Two Moors Festival.

The Secretary warned members of a postal scam currently in operation whereby cards are posted through peoples’ doors from a Company stating that they were unable to deliver a parcel and requesting the occupier to phone them on 0906 6611911 (a premium rate number)  Do Not Call This Number, as it is a scam believed to originate from Belize.  If this number is called and you hear a recorded message you will already have been billed for £315!  If you do receive a card with these details, please contact Royal Mail Fraud on 02072396655 or view Crime Stoppers website.

An e-mail received, without the sender’s name, concerning a report in our Minutes dated 5th August 2005 about Gallows at Devonport. Our reply is that the report states what we were told at the time.

Moretonhampstead LHG: Bill Hardiman of Moretonhampstead LHG has invited the secretary and chairman of Widecombe LHG to attend the launch of the Moretonhampstead  Heritage Centre in the Old Primary School, Moretonhampstead, on Saturday 10th December at 11.00 a.m. A formal invitation will be sent soon. 

                            The meeting closed  at 10.20 p.m.

      There followed                               An Illustrated Talk by Dr. Tom Greeves entitled

Four Willsworthy Farms from medieval times to the 20th Century.

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