Widecombe History Group Minutes September 2004


A Meeting of the Widecombe and District Local History Group was held at The Church House Widecombe on Wednesday 1st September 2004 at 7.30 p.m.

Apologies:- Michael & Andrea Venables, Arch Mortimore, Peter Rennells, Sue Booty and Ann Claxton.

Mrs Margaret Steemson was in the chair and 39 people attended. The meeting then wished our Vice Chairman Peter Hirst a very happy birthday.

Arising:- The permanent fixing of the drop-cloth and a date to continue the librarians logging still needs concluding.

Volunteers for the production of our Lead Paperweights were recorded as Simon Booty, Jim Churchward, Terry French, Peter Hirst and the secretary, who will arrange a date .

E-mails:- We have successfully traced the lady seeking information on John Rose. We shall put her in contact with Simon Dell who has found details for her and may have further information.

Aug 04/01 Richard Wells confirmed that the standing stone in our old photograph (see last minutes) was in fact Drizzlecombe - just bellow Ditsworthy Warren, it is the tallest of three menhirs in that area and has that ‘odd lump’ sticking out to one side at the top. Re-erected in 1893 and stands 14ft high, being 17ft 10inches in overall length, (3ft 10inches buried in the ground).

Aug 04/02 South Tawton Church House will be open to the public from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. on September 10th to 12th. There will be an exhibition by the Local History Group and the nearby St Andrew’s Church will also be open. Contact 01837 840418 for further details. This is an heritage event.

Aug 04/03 The first request for the Widecombe and District Local History Group, Parish Documents Browse, Version I, July 2004 C.D. has been received from Colin Childs of New Zealand. A ‘PayPal’ account will be opened to make payment from overseas easier. Priced at Ł15 which includes postage and package copies can be obtained by E-mailing history @ widecombe-in-the-moor.com or visiting www.widecombe-in-the-moor.com for further details, or contact our secretary.

Widecombe Parish Social & Entertainments Club is continuing to function well and there is a grand meat draw in September followed by a special Christmas Draw in December. Do not forget the sponsored fun-run scheduled for Saturday 9th October.

Widecombe Ladies Social Club will meet at The Church House on Thursday 9th September for a talk on antiques. Bring along an item for valuation and discussion.

Newton Abbot N.F.U Harvest Festival at The Methodist Hall, The Avenue, Newton Abbot on Sunday 19th September 7.30 p.m. all welcome.

Community Landscape Project. This has now run out of funding but Sean Hawken is still interested in visiting our North Hall site and he will contact the group later in the Autumn.

St Antony in Cornwall. John Kimber who is researching the similarity of the storm there in 1640 to our storm of 1638, reported that he has made contact with Colvilles the Estate Management Group at Tavistock, they have suggested contacting a Colin Edwards of Truro as he is the librarian responsible for the St Antony archives. John has done this and is awaiting a reply.

2005 Programme. Ann and Wendy will be meeting soon to plan next years programme and they would still be happy for more suggestions as regards to speakers, places to visit for guided walks and outings. Please let them have any ideas that you may have soon.

Parish Documents C.D. - see details in the E-mail section of these minutes.

The fire-proof box for storage of Parish Documents still being researched.

A. J. Coles and his film ‘All Along, Down Along, Out Along Lee’ - secretary is still trying to conclude this item.

Dartmoor Trust Leats Project. Contact Jane Marchand at Dartmoor National Park for a suitable map.

Widecombe Fair. Anthony Beard is collecting memorabilia connected with Widecombe Fair. The group in connection with The Widecombe Fair Committee is hoping to write a book on the history of the Fair. Anyone with anything that would help like newspaper cuttings, old programmes, photographs or stories would be greatly appreciated. Please contact our secretary, Anthony E. Beard, at Bittleford Parks, Widecombe Newton Abbot TQ 13 7TQ or telephone him on 01364 621246. All information and sources will be credited, material will be copied with permission and returned or stored for an exhibition which it is hoped will be held at a future Fair. Already items have begun to appear. Offers of old documents, references in books and records and photographs have begun to build up. Many thanks to John Kimber who has visited The Western Morning News in search of old reports of the Fair and to Margaret Phipps who has offered the sight of an old book c1900 containing information and to Audrey Mortimore for use of her scrap-book. Keep it coming! Anthony has been given an old gramophone record c1930 of the song, and a copy of an advertising booklet of Whiteways Cider 1934, featuring the Widecombe Fair song. Tony Heath then produced a copy of The South Devon journal for our archives which included items on Widecombe, Sally Saterley, Jack Warren, some dialect script by ‘Rowley & Emmie’, alias Vian Smith..

The History of Ponsworthy Project will continue throughout the winter.

Shovel Down excavation. A message of apology have been received from the organisers for not appearing at our August meeting.

Mary Pascoe brought a scrapbook containing photographs of our outing to Abbotsbury copies of these can be obtained by contacting Mary. Roger Claxton also offered to get copies of some of the photographs that have come into his possession of parts of the parish. Many of the film clips that were shown last month are to be seen on the website, www.britishpathe.com High resolution copies can be purchased through that contact.

Future meetings The next meeting will be on Wednesday 6th October 2004 at 7.30 p.m. at The Church House Widecombe, when we shall have a have a talk by Roger Claxton entitled. - "Dartmoor after the Ice Age".

November 3rd John Allen who we hope will attend early in the evening 6.30 p.m. ‘ish to examine collections of local finds held by our members and who will discuss the finding later that evening.

December 1st Dr Todd Gray on Historical Images of Dartmoor.

The guest speaker at the September meeting was Len Copley who gave a very interesting illustrated talk on "The Abbots Way and the Lych Way". He then offered a guided walk on the north moor starting at High Down Carpark Ref:- 5220 8466 near Widgery Cross and Doe Tor Brook on Saturday 4th September at 12 noon, bring a picnic.

Click here for the talk.

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